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Pay attention to the Zoning Code -- and Make sure you use the same colors you said you were going to use

  • wagmanml
  • Feb 4
  • 7 min read

The February 3 Planning Board agenda was packed with old and new projects, making it a lengthy meeting. Several projects came forward for proposals for uses not allowed as the property is currently zoned.


Discussion

  • Lot Consolidation on New Hamburg Road - was approved by the board.

  • Chelsea Farm Subdivision - a resolution - the specifics of which WERE NOT published with the materials in the Town's Website as would be expected - seemed ageeable to the board, the professionals and the applicant -- and was passed. It would be very helpful, and is probabaly required - that the resolution be made public.

  • Hackensack Professional Building - Proposed at intersection of Jackson Road and New Hackensack Road. - This project was initially propopsed in 2004 - and shelved by the applicant. It is now back - a 6000 square foot office building - on approximately an acre - requiring a change to the intersection of New Hackensack Road and Jackson Road (involving the county).

    Concerns and Points brought up during this initial review - the turning radius templates used to demonstrate manuverability by vehicles on the site need to be updated/corrected (include garbage truck & fire truck) , traffic review required, need lighting plan, need signage details, full EAF needs to be updated - a coordinated view of several agencies is required, north retaining law may need a variance if a set-back is required, temporary easement for construction, Central Hudson Easement for grading - need correspondance with Central Hudson, how big is the lot - various sizes mentioned in the write-up, health department for well and septic - will be considered a public water system. The use is expected to be professional office space - lawyer, dr., - no retail. The kinds of tenants, the number of offices need (perhaps the loading dock is not required... the owner is to be asked). More work to be done to get the plan updated.

  • Casa Amigos Restaurant proposed for 1515 Route 9 (the former Odyssey Diner, Pizza Hut) - property is in both Town of Wappinger and Village of Wappinger. A small addition is proposed on 1.29 acres. The interior/exterior is to be renovated - 1,100 square foot addition with a roof-top dining area and increase in # of bathrooms. Architect worked on staying within the current approved parking area - thus the impervious area remains the same. The area of the dining room was formerly green space. Ingress/Egress on Route 9 and Sgt. Palmatier will remain the same. The dumpster area to be moved away from the building. The owner of the building remains the same.. the applicant will be leasing the building. The site lighting is to be changed/refresh the landscaping. Repave the entire parking lot, some areas are currently crumbling. Village Water Board has been approached re: the project (Village water and sewer). The Grease trap will need to be enlarged - and require Board of Health Department approval. Rooftop - will be completely open, enclosed stairwell (by glass) to be built and second egress - outside stairwell - will be for emergencies. Lighting for Rooftop has not been decided yet. Noise - no entertainment on roof. The narrative needs to be updated/tightened up. clarify what is currently existing and what is being proposed. Landscape and Lighting plan is required (need a full photometric plan - glare/overlighting are concerns). Need dimension layouts for parking and turning radii - refuse enclosures/bollards) Perhaps a full EAF may not be required, but full submission is required before that is determined. The elevations will change - and will be submitted as part of the next packages. Need information on neighboring properties -- ie if neighbors will be affected by roof top dining.


Architectural Reviews

  • Handicap Ramp & Exterior Sign for 766 Sgt. Palmateer Way.. owners wants to make building accessible for ADA. Sign proposed by sign company in complaince with Zoning Code. Proposed Ramp is coming on side of building - goes to the back of the property and makes a turn to go to parking lot. Least change in elevation. The Landings have to be ADA compliant (at least 5 feet) width of ramp (at least 42 inches wide). Signs - 5 separate tenants - or information about services. No Plan to have the sign lit - most people come to office 9 to 5. Haven't give a thought to the colors.... but a white background. Since it was an Architectural Review, just need a board vote, which the board did and approved. Next Step - going to the building department for permits.

  • Kingdom Hall Amended Site Plan - 383 All Angels Hill Road.. Built in 1987 it was last reburbished in 2004. 6 congregations meet there, different languages. Goal is to improve aesthetics. Want to remove vinyl siding and stone veneer - replace with hardy board and some stone, replace the monument sign, replace gutters and leaders. Repair the parking area - 3 dry wells need to be installed (drives have standing water around that area.. trying to pull water from the parking surface). And provide accessible parking at the rear. Replace lighting fixtures - energy savings (on the building and near the road - some of the lighting is rented, and this arrangement would continue. Try to keep landscaping away from the buidling to keep water away from the building, the slab has some issues with water. The Board requested a landscaping plan. Will be reducing parking from 124 spaces to 121 to accomodate ADA parking. (Provide a parking calculation) B. Roberti mentioned that it would be difficult to find the original site plan because the Town's files are not easily accessible. The board requested a photometric/lightening plan. The sign is currently lit... the town will look for lighting to be top down vs. bottom up. Next step - full submission for site plan.

  • Citco Amended Site Plan - remove and relocate existing gas pumps and add an extra pump and canopy on .68 acre at 1336 Route 9. Applicants has made changes with safety in mind.. add another gas dispenser, significant stacking and staging of traffic currently. Berm was removed because tire blowouts -- use directional arrows painted on pavement to help traffic flow. The Doors have been re-located to the left hand side of the store front so customers can enter building more easily. Board asked that the circulation will work, fuel truck - turning template show how fuel truck enters the property - when fuel truck is there.. how customer's vehicles move around. Board expressed concern about back-ups on Route 9 and Old Hopewell and arguements at the pumps. The circulation plan needs to demonstrate it works. And the board expressed concern about the removal of the concrete island ... it had a purpose and causes a problem with people trying to get back on Old Hopewell Road. Dutchess County DOT ok with the removal of the island (verbal). Perhaps a mountable curb? Doors in front of building... were in the center of the building and now being moved to the left side of the building. That work has been completed. The tanks - the pipe dope got old and allowed ground water to drip into the tanks. No environmental impact - the Tank is out of service. If the upgrade is done.. the lines and the tank top/tank replacement. That why there is still an open spill listed on the DEC Wesite. Fuel Delivery drivers want to go South... need to address when Fuel Truck drivers want to go South.

  • Niznik - Amended Site Plan - Conceptual Review to allow a 3-bay commercial office/warehouse building on 1.3 acres (listed as 1.8 on some documents- which includes roads needs to be resolved by a subdivison) in an HB Zoning District at 27 Osborne Hill Road. (corner Smithtown and Osborne Hill Road) - 1 family 2 story home currently on the property. Will enlarge current driveway to share driveway. Contractor Yards aren't allowed in HB Zoning. Code requires 2 acres for warehouse and residential not allowed. Personal Services/Retail is allowed for mixed use space. advised to look at language for mixed use/special permits - square footage guidelines. Existing well would be used by both sites. No soil testing has been done. Front on Smithtown Road. Need to consider where CarMax's entrance is. Applicant needs to work with B. Roberti on what permitted uses are.

  • Hudson Valley Scrap Kings, LLC - 1980 Route 9D - conceptual review of short term changes for the property (31.3 acres) - 3 individuals parcels Have been working to clean-up the property, have been working with DEC. Have an idea of things to do with the property - zoning/ environmental for discussion. Maintain the scrap business - consolidate and move. Outdoor/indoor athletic fields. Want to discuss how it fits in the zoning and environmental. Budgeted/Timeline - thought it would take 3 months... now 6 months and still working on it.. want to be a good neighbor to the town. Want to take down buildings and put up new buildings and containt the scrap business in structures. There is a desire in the area - sports clubs and organizations are excited about the opportunity for sports facilities. Need to make decisions in next 30 to 45 days - trying to understand the board's ideas/feelings about the opportunities there. A lot wetlands on the largest part of the property - the two parcels in the front of about 5 acres . DEC and Town Wetland's regulations - Board expressed concern about where buildings/wetlands etc. and precedent setting. Board also expressed concern about traffic challenges. Two outdoor fields and one outdoor field. Most parking is shown in the front -- for large events... but day to day will be for practice. R40 R80 Zone... doesn not allow entertainment. Would need a reZone... and requires a subdivison... because 2 uses can't be on the same tax parcel.. Scrap business and Entertainment don't work together. Maintaining scrap facility next to entertainment... needs to be addressed. Need signficant buffering. LIghting is a concern. The Board stated that they like the project .. but the are a lot of hurdles, but the applicant wanted to exchange ideas and get feedback. Is this a Type 1 action? will require an extensive SEQR review and coordination with town board. Can they get clearing permission on 4 acre parcel? Removing trees? Daily trips less than 200 ... on. weekend, hosting a tournament - would be much higher traffic.. plus the scrapyard traffic. Police involvement in directing traffic. Storm Water, Rest Room? Well/Septic? will be hiring a management company to manage the facility.

  • B. Roberti - brought forward that the new building on Middlebush Road - the color of Slate Blue is different than what was on the plan. The Board does not have a problem with the color. Should the applicant come back in to the Planning Board. B. Roberti would like him to explain the changes. The color and the materials are not mentioned in the plan... B. Roberti thinks it should be in the resolution going forward.


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